Yep! Bryce it is! The choice ahead between Bryce 5 and Vue 4 is really no choice for me. Bryce it is! In my opinion no other program renders like Bryce. I have read so many demands for exporting possibilities but what interests me more are the importing ditto since Bryce (of course) is the end station anyway. I can't remember ever having rendered one single image in Poser. I use Poser only to create people for Bryce. Right no I'm standing on my toenails, inpatient and eager to lay my hands on Bryce 5. Corel, please, ease my pain! - Zoot