I usually do open everything and then put them where I want but V4 intimidates me a little she has so many parts and I just am not sure where it all goes.  I thank you for your answer and you are right about the mess install exe makes of everything.  The Poser org really helps a lot but when it went spaz I froze.  I am going to just try as you say an just put the parts where I want them......

Thanks for your time......