i dunno.  so far i haven't seen anything to knock my pants off in terms of the figure.  his shoulders are too high (just like V4's),  and he looks about like V4 with a gender change.  there's some very high quality work being done for him, but i'm gun shy.  i almost never use M3, because David is so much better.  i wish i'd never bought M3, and just held out for a figure whose previews really impressed me.  M4 isn't as horrifically bad as M3, but he doesn't make me feel like i need him either.  and Apollo 2008 isn't out yet.  i think Anton was holding off for M4's release.