Thanks for your reply. Actually I need one that will take a black & white tif, jpg, etc. of a shape and turn it into a 3D object. I just rememberd that 3DF/X by Asymetrix will do this (it's completely automated and very cool), but unfortunately you can not export the object at all. And working in 3DF/X is a nightmare. It's amazing to me that a cheap little program like this has this capability and nothing else seems to ... astounding really. Would the VectorWorks plug-in be able to simulate 3D on a non vector-based image though?? Thanks, Tim