Ohhh, don't remind me. We're still trying to work out the problem with the new window, plus my lady's been under the weather and that's slowed things down a bunch. I'm going to receive Vue 4 soon, but I won't be able to use it until I get my new machine and get all my stuff transfered to it -- aggh, and then what? (oops, shouldn't ask!) And yes, Vue's "Sketch", "Preview", "Final" etc. is what I meant. I was hoping they'd add a couple options there, for more "painterly" renders, but ah well, I guess that'll have to wait for v.7. Thanks for the quick answers! :)