RodsArt opened this issue on Nov 02, 2008 · 18 posts
RodsArt posted Mon, 03 November 2008 at 5:03 AM
Quote from the Challenge Theme page:
(NOTE): Remember, it's a Bryce Challenge. Postwork is absolutely fine, but don't change the entire scene so we think it's 2D.
**I only saw 2 in the Challenge that even remotely looked a bit over processed in a 2D editor
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Personally I would want people to see what is possible using Bryce, but if it's moved to 'mixed medium' then nobody will know it's Bryce.
However, I think I'd rather see Bryce modelled scenes that include postwork remain in the Bryce gallery.
So Postwork IS OK?
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What i'd like to see though, is those images that are Poser or DazStudio characters rendered in Bryce with no discernable Bryce modelling being moved out of there.... the Bryce gallery that is.
The scantily clad poser figure rendered in Bryce gets my goat up far more than any postwork issues, though I do understand the point.
There are times when I scratch my head as to why an artist chooses Bryce for JUST the render engine, imports a Poser figure, and makes a portrait style image. Poser has a fantastic Render engine and Lighting controls. However, One of the great things about Bryce is that it imports relatively easy, and we can all agree, once you're comfortable with an interface, the workflow and creativity steps up a notch. So it leaves me with a sense of knowing what a Great program this really is.
There may eventually be a challenge for Modeling in Bryce only. But that's a seperate Challenge in and of itself, because Bryce does have that potential as an OPTION.
* *Each Challenge Theme Author HAS the CHOICE to include or exclude Postwork and Imports!!
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*To give you all some real "Nuts & Bolts" as far as what has provoked this situation.
Each day I check the gallery to cover Mod duties, here are some of the issues.
*(NO NAMES ARE TO BE USED HERE)
Images that have a Bryce based background, the rest of the image is comprised of Photos Cut & Pasted for the main subject matter.
Images Rendered in Bryce and have had so many Filters applied in a 2D editor, you can't tell it's Bryce anymore.
Images that are collages of Bryce renders, Abstracts, 2D editing with text and tubes, etc.
I'm not looking to hammer out every piece that has some postwork or presentation accent.
These are (as stated in many of your responses) the small enhancments that really shocase what Bryce can do.......and whatever it can't do
Please read on...
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I will not single out any one image or example, if you cruise the gallery on a daily basis, understand all the subtle nuances between Newbies, Part timers, talented artistes, purists, different styles of genre, then you'll begin to understand what I'm talking about.*
Better yet, cruise my Gallery, I'm more constringent on "HOW" I post my own work.
If you like, I can IM you and give you examples in the Gallery as to where my concerns are focused.
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I guess this thread is pointed at me.
Um, you were the only one that left a POINTED comment:
Honerable mentions..
All others that used Bryce and didn't import.
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Since i'm the only one making a comment there, and a valid one
Opinions are fine, we all have our own method of working with Bryce.
Here's something that can be construed as my Opinion, though it just a fact of the matter.
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( ignore the "IMPORT" choice in the menu & Ignore the potential of the software, & mostly ignore your own potential) Not opinion, just the facts.
Whew, I'm glad you're not Drac. LOL (Hugs Mihn)
Please feel free to IM me too
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