Still sticking with Bryce, the interface is definetly not designed for the artist but for the programmer,it is an interface similar to Max, to me at least, I think I will stick with Bryce, I'm seeing the same Poser animation import availability coming soon for Bryce, and the water animation can easily be achieved with material operations or terrain deforming in Bryce, the only advantage WB has over Bryce is rendering speed(though I don't like the look of WB renders don't know why) and the grass...tree blowing effects, of which I have a few ideas using poser to create grass blowing effects at least...we shall see...