Yep Thanks I saw that but I don't see what version of Z-brush that is.  2 and 3 are very different I have both versions but rather stick with 3.  $40.00 may be a little stiff without seeing a demo like Gnomon has.  Demos you can see of the tutorials.. Money is tight right now and rather not spend it on something I am not sure of at all.. LOL   Yeh I know I am a cheap Bast#$@!!!