Well it looks like view will be it.  Thank you all for your input!

And for the record i like the fire fly renderer.  i find it to be in some ways better then the max one for certain things, but since upgrading my Vid card poser is giving me nothing but problems, so its time for something else .

If you look at my gallery, the image i use for my icon, the background is all poser,  Most of the figure is too but there was some insane skin cloning and parts cloning in PS.

-Gabe-