Yes, I have heard about this Nendo, Hmm...guess I'll have to research a bit more..I do want to get something that will allow me to create models and so on from scratch..perhaps even animate them..but it must be easy to use... and must be industry standard...or close to it...but what is there that's not 3DStudio Max, Softimage, Lightwave? Is there another cheaper application that will work just as well as the big boys? Or is Cinema the only one out there? I have used their demos on various occassions and to be quite honest have found them to be a bit cryptic and hard to understand...perhaps because a manual was not included with the demo...I don't know. However, I've jumped into things like Poser and Bryce with NO manuals and created incredible images in minutes... When we are talking about Ray Dream being slow and cumbersome..are we talking about Ray Dream 5.5 or an earlier version? PAN~