Thanks :) I'll see if I can do that - maybe just a mapped primative... It ALMOST works if I do this: 1) Save as OBJ 2) Edit the OBJ in 3d explorer and go find the maps, the maps poser exports don;t seem to have paths associated. 3) Convert to COB BOT - transmapping and bump mapping don;t come in. In fact, it doesn;t look like TS even DOES transmapping. Odd.