So Peggy, we meet up here as well? Please do not take offense,  I always come to Renderosity for second opinion! Yes those are vob and yes I have ghosting turned on, it was so frustrating to click on an icon and have it pop up and say you could use if for $10.00. I really felt this was dirty trick way selling products. So are all the procedural terrains also then must purchase items? I might be interested in some but how do I turn off the ghosting in the terrains because as soon as I go to procedural it just loads the 1 standard one. I attach a partial list of terrains; can you tell me of these all need to be purchased?

It seems that the "extras cd" ... is just that extra expense that you must fork out for.
I wonder why VUE cannot just be up front about what they are doing.... probably in small print somewhere but sheesh.
Thanks as always for your quick and informative response.