Canine, thank you for sending that... I probably have my work email as part of my profile and I won't get it till tomorrow... I appreciate it and will study it, cause honestly, I'm beginning to believe I'm a retard regarding this particular technique... I mean, I did it, but I was using a volume ground plane and a volume water plane... I'll try it with both water planes, one with the ground material and one for the cut... Thanks once again...