:biggrin:  silverblade, fellow scot, I don't really want to get into a discussion on the relative merits of Poser and Vue materials, I use both of them. I'm surprised that you say the Poser shaders suck - they don't, as you'd see if you looked in my gallery - some are using Vue, others Poser shaders.

My point is this:- If Vue7 is sold as being able to use the Poser shaders (not just textures) then it should do that. My experience is that it doesn't, at least in the Complete Version and I would like to hear from others who have used Poser shaders in previous releases of Vue with success and are having similar problems in 7 as me - or not... and whether that is Complete or Infinite.

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Rob