Thanks for the feedback momodot:there is much to do with the feet ,did you notice how terribly flat they are? I must get in and fix them. Posing the feet with IK on makes them get all messed up, I wonder why, any ideas?

For the hands,  I wonder if that might work to get that palm fold, an extra bone. I think about the way the hand also folds together from index to pinky too, because the finger joints actually end at the wrist and not at the first knuckle, but how to get such a thing out of Poser?

Momodot I apreciate the feedback, keeps me thinking on how to make things work, I'm going to work on these things you've mentioned, and I will be back with new files soon.

Right now I must get to work on Antonia and get thes final things into her rig, then I am done and I can concentrate on Brad, I'm going to get him done this month if it kills me LOL.

Keep coming with the ideas when you think of something.

Thanks.

Mike.

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A HOMELAND FOR POSER FINALLY