Bagginsbill :-any help at all is much appreciated, i will also be playing around with the nodes, and i have already come to the conclusion that the wood node is useless, i think its only there to fool the new commers to the material, therefore i have learned my first lesson in wood...lol

JWFokker:- love the renders, what hair is that? that you are using...

anyways i have to set this machine to a virus scan...lol... somthing i havent done in 3 years....lol..

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.