Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: V4 Character apparent age.

RealDeal opened this issue on Jan 21, 2009 · 45 posts


Morkonan posted Thu, 22 January 2009 at 4:00 AM

Quote - I have a question.
I've been asked to do some, um, VERY adult animations for a friends website. She had seen some earlier, similar work I did on the same line.
Specifically,  she wants something done with with Aurelie, from thorne & sarsa; BellaDonna from content paradise, and Tanith, also from thorne and sarsa.
I've already turned her down ,with the caveat that if she showed me written permission from the creators I would think about it, but the thing that really bothered me after I considered things for a while was the apparent age of the characters specified; are these Virtual Characters Virtually 18 or older?
There are moral considerations to this that puzzle the heck out of me; I'm not sure what I'm supposed to think about this. And I'm not 100% certain that there aren't legal considerations, even though everything is US based?
On the other hand, I really like money.
Comments? thoughts?

Rule #1 - When in doubt, don't.  IOW, if you are apprehensive then there is probably good reason.  Decide on what your level of knowledge is on this.  If it is good then you are probably justified in your apprehension.  If it is not, get an opinion of someone who is, preferably an attorney specializing in such matters.

Rule #2 - A 3D model is not a live person and has no birth certificate.  That means, if it can be interpreted as being under-age then you are in trouble.  Pornographers flirt with this all the time doing things like dressing up porno stars in Girl Scout uniforms or as cheerleaders.  But, they can refer to a birth certificate proving the actress is of legal age.  You can't.  Therefore, you MUST be careful in how such renderings can be interpreted.  The phrase used by Justice Potter Stewart in ref to obscenity was "I know it when I see it."  That applies directly to your efforts.  If someone can interpret it as being illegal, you have no birth certificates to back you up if challenged.

Rule #3 - Intent.  What is the intent of the producer?  Keep that in mind.  Intent is going to be an issue and it's usually fairly obvious.  There's that whole "I know it when I see it" thing.  If someone produces a graphic scene and then just sticks fairy wings on the figures, the intent there may be fairly evident.  But, using the same resources and altering the composition and the intent becomes entirely different.  Two fairies flying around a giant sunflower is a heck of a lot different than two fairies doing unmentionable acts with their jiggly bits.

Rule #4 - I am not liable for anything you do.  IOW, don't take my advice or any other person who is not a professional, practicing attorney who is familiar with obscenity/pornography laws and who is being professionally consulted by you or the parties involved.  Casual advice on this is not something to be acted upon.

IMO, the specific characters you mentioned are not intended to be minors.  At least, as far as I can recollect.  IMO, I think that a case could be made for that and establish it.  I also think that if there is much question, you can alter them enough to alleviate certain fears.  Large breasts, slightly stronger facial features, a bit of pubic hair, whatever.  IMO, I also think the community in general is a bit paranoid in regards to this.  But, if they're so paranoid, maybe there is a good reason?  A friend of mine once said that "Poser is for Porn" and, in truth, there is far too much of that in the community for such statements to be completely ignored.