Looks like I'm in trouble then, it's an actual card from S3 :( I found this website http://www.opengl.org/users/about/index.html and it looks like they may have drivers for my savage 4 but reading the GLsetup release notes has me a little afraid to try it as I'm not all that computer savy (I just like to make pretty pictures). Has anyone else tried this program for installing drivers? Dawn