Okay the problem that I see is, when the model is first made, we start labeling things like, (the barn) Trim, Siding, hinges etc. You can see how it comes out in Mike's example, each item like the front door, has it's own separate item (Trim, hinge etc.). What a pain to have to add material to an item that has been broken into 20 pieces instead of 5, when you know most people will make all the trim for example the same color. Shouldn't it be more compact so it doesn't take years to put material on it? Mike and I tested another model just a little while ago, we took it directly from AutoCad as a .3ds and imported it directly into Vue as a .3ds and all the layers match exactly which is nice. You see Poser and Byrce don't do that. We make lots of conversions for those 2 software packages so people can pose them or even place them in Byrce, but with Vue it translate perfect. Not as much work as for the other software, so it won't take long at all to fix this. But do you understand what I mean about inconvience and for those people who don't have Poser or Bryce. Sharen:)