Max-: Having used both Vue 3.4/4 and Bryce 4, I personally prefer the capabilities of Vue. In particular I find the Vue interface more intuitive. I think that the solid growth plants in VUE are simply awesome. The inclusion of direct Poser imports (albeit with a few bugs right now) and volumetrics rounded out the list of things that I thought VUE needed. However, I think that your particular needs should be what drive your decision as to which software to purchase. I think that it is pretty obvious that there have been many good renderings from both pieces of software. I think that software support is important too. Right now Vue 4 has a few teething problems (some glitches in Poser Imports). I fully expect these to be solved in a timely fashion and Vue 3.1 was always very stable on my machines & operating systems. (I've run it on pentium systems as well as athlon systems - on Win98SE and Win2000Pro). I would second the advice about trying one of the demo versions. If you like how things operate in the demo and the interface - go for VUE. If you find that you dislike the Vue interface or features (note Vue 4 has added volumetrics!) -- stick with the Bryce path. Good Luck with your decision; Allan

Allan Thornton