Here is a better work up of the shader in action. I made all new maps amd masks and as you can see it looks pretty nice :biggrin: I have used that small image thing before in a package I once had for sale but it didn't do too well and it was quite awhile ago when I think many people were still holding onto Poser 4 and hadn't graduated to P5+ yet, or understood the material room very well. Thanks again, I really appreciate your help as always!