oh ok thanks touch. and BTW poser 7 pro is so annoying >_< for some reason when I extracted files using win .rar they don't want to nest properly...so stuff gets lost and certain files, like my M3 hairs..the flowing ones you can get off sharecg when i select them a window pops up saying that it can't find the file and asks me to look for it manialy. Also if I click on a pair of pants and they don't show up...dose that mean they are a texture and not a mesh. if you would like to talk more...maybe hep me out with stuff. We could exchange IM's my yahoo is Bicora_the_wolf.

thanks again