Quote - ice-boy what do you mean there should be no AO where the light comes from?

AO is supposed to be used to block the IBL. The same spot may also have a directional shadow. The directional shadow should correspond to the blocking of directional light, and the AO shaodw should correspond to the blocking of ambient light - usually implemented as IBL.

If you use light-based AO on the IBL, this will work perfectly.

i tryed this and it loosk better then i remember in poser 7. a little confused right now. hmmmm.

i really think in poser 7 when i used light-based AO it still made a lot of AO where the direction light was.