ROFL InBlack, you really live in your own world, don't you dear. Dmentia and I have ever only exchanged one verbal exchange in all our existences that was not considered by most to be "hostile". Ordinarily, I would consider us to be competitors who compete so hard and so strongly against one another, it is almost indecent. Most consider us to be enemies. Shows how much you know about the inner workings in this place. I have said, and will say again, "only time will tell". That means, I plan, as I said, to perform the SAME tests I use in all these cases. No one can get by me. If I find any evidence of one work being built off the other, believe me, I state it. No matter who it is whose work it is build off the others. One last thought, your thing you have against the beta testers showing off renders of what they are testing... that sounds more to me like you sort of resent beta testers in general, since you have not been asked to be one. I guess that would go to your idea there is some mysterious clique you are not a part of. Know how I find my beta testers? Cattle Calls, and also I take them out of my list of those who for one reason or another, needed tech support on one of my products they purchased. I don't know them when they are invited aboard. I in fact, tend to avoid inviting my friends as beta testers, since I need brutal honesty, not someone blowing flattering smoke up my ass. Do they become friends? Sure. We are human. You can't work with someone 4 months during a testing run without learning to like one another, or at least respect eachother. As to Dmentia's guilt or innocence being deemed by her refusing to say anything, does that mean all who refuse to say something are guilty of something? I refused to make a comment as long as I could on the matter of Neftis and the hair. I still refuse. You honestly do NOT want to know what I would have to say. Trust me. It would shatter your dreams and illusions in this fantasy world you are currently living in where you love to challenge the apparent underdog. Some of us, just like to say VERY little. Dmentia is in fact one of those. She rarely ever speaks. Her speaking into the Neftis thread was an extraordinary event actually. Just like me now speaking into this.