"As it stands now, his refusal does I think rather speak for itself unfortunately." Yep, I said that. I will say it again too if I get a lack of cooperation again. So far, no one has told me to go take a flying leap yet though in an effort to compare the two works in question. The above judgement was based upon Sbnox's refusal to provide his texture at full scale for a comparison, yet wishing me to come out on his side and judge him innocent. I cannot in fact do that, unless I have both textures to compare completely, in a logical and scientific fashion. That is the only fair way. When I manage to compare these, then no doubt lots of people who right now are holding their peace will speak out if they wish, I am sure. As to re-addressing the Neftis matter, it irked me to see it brought back into this thread, and even see whole new webs and spins added to it by those who either cannot read, or have a serious attention deficit problem. There is is, AGAIN, in this thread. I'm just fed up with it all, and decided to finally say this is just a bunch of bollocks. This matter of "this clique and that clique" crucifying Neftis. There is no clique, though I WILL grant you, there was a public hanging frontier style.