Nope! I have not found anything on my copy of the cds that match that. Have You? Post the math! Why dont you do that? You cant it is my mesh! That file is staying there. Hey if it came with Poser and they are using it I did not give them permission! That is Curious I mean. It is my mesh. If Zygote or Daz3D wishes to challenge they can. No secret who I am! I use my real name. Ron