AH  looking at your explanation in that thread you linked to  makes it seem not so complicated, BB.

general question here:

If I have AO nodes set up on materials,  I will get  AO effects on these materials  EVEN IF  AO  is  turned  OFF  on all lights,  correct?

in other words , I am assuming AO via lights  and AO  via materials  do not effect each other (as far as"on" of "off" status. that is )

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