Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Another V3 Post "Please read and comment"

Chippsyann opened this issue on Mar 04, 2009 · 30 posts


aeilkema posted Thu, 05 March 2009 at 1:57 AM

Quote - Hmmm, if the market isn't saturated for V4, why are Daz and Renderosity turning down so many products for her???? I was told in the Daz forums that if I do submit a V4 product, it really has to be exceptional or it will be refused.

Perhaps she isn't as popular as they want to make us believe? Could be.

But I do think something else is going on. I've got the feeling that this may well be the effect of the crisis. People may have changed their spending habits. I can imagine if someone is going to buy an item, instead of clicking the buy button as they used to do, they now think twice before spending the money. Something really has to be worth it. Personally I only buy exceptional quality items. All the other stuff doesn't stand out anymore. I've got enough of the same same in my runtimes.

Second thing is the clothes converters...... I'm sure they take away a huge chunck of the merchants business. Why in the world would I want to buy similair outfits over and over again for different figures, if I can convert them myself? I only buy what I cannot convert.... in other words something I haven't seen before or I don't have a similair item of in my runtimes.

Third thing is that the poser market is way to small for the huge numbers of merchants that are operating on it. There are so many people making stuff that stores need to make choices. Again the problem is that most of these merchants make the same stuff as everyone else. There have been quit some complaints in the past here and at DAZ why in the world they're selling only items that are so similair to each other. To sell something stores need outstanding items and make a choice what they sell. If they pick short dress from merchant A & B, they're going to refuse the short dress from merchant C & D & E & F & G and so on. Those dresses will not generated enough sales to justify all the work and bandwith these stores have to put into selling them. They simply pick the bests ones and sell them, since they know the quality is exceptional and it will appeal to people. there are way too many merchants in this market, making the same stuff.

The problem is that 90% of the merchants make items that have been done before. On the other hand there are so many areas where stuff hasn't been created for or hardly has been created for. Merchants don't operate in those areas, since they're afraid no one will buy. For example, many poser & d/s user are still begging for men clothes, but the majority of merchants keep on focussing on the girls items, since it sells (according to them). Let's not even go into the toon figures area. The figures themselves do sell very well (and I'm sure the extra content does also), but it's hard to find items for them, especially for the guys, but even for the girls the content is limited. I'm pretty sure that's a huge potential market that is still hardly touched.

Merchants need to get free from this sex sells mentality and start looking elsewhere and learn from people like Faveral, 3D Universe and Stonemason. Top merchants, yet very original and people do buy their stuff.

It all comes down to a saturated market with merchants trying to sell what we already do own. You want my money? Start being original, create something I haven't seen before and I can actually use. In my case it's toon stuff..... I've got almost every 3D universe toon figure there is and 90% of the additional items that have been created. I do own 90% of Rodi Designs items. I'm now in the process of buying all of the3Dzone's items. There some items I haven't bought, but they do lack the quality I'm looking for. Don't want a high quality figure with low quality clothes, that doesn't work well. I don't buy V3 or V4 items anymore, got too much of those already. I do still buy stuff for Hiro3 and Aiko3, but only if it stands out. Aiko4 and Hiro4 I don't need, they add nothing new to what Hiro3 and Aiko3 already have, for me they're actually a step backwards, so I don't use them. M4 and V4 don't interest me, they offer me nothing beyond M3 and V3.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk