Cheers I'll check them out.

Been messing around for ages now since I got it home , Think I'm going to like this. Best £5.99 I've spent on a mag for ages. Been trying to figure out soft shadows, I assume there isn't just a slider like bryce? or if there is I seem to me missing it.  Also do they kill the render times like they do in Bryce?

suppose I'll have to drag myself away and go to bed at some point :)