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Also... having the eye movement in the Head morphforms is good... but it would be a lot more realistic if the eyelids followed the movement (which is what V4 has for her). When I look up or down, it's not just my eyeball rotating, my lids move with the eyeball.

That's a good idea. The position of the edge of the upper eyelid in relation to the iris is significant. If it's low, the person looks sleepy, if it's high, alert. So if the eyes look up or down, the lids should follow in order to keep the expression the same.

By the way, when I looked at V4's face rig, many things seemed very familiar. I wouldn't be surprised to find a certain book on facial animation on her creator's desk.

Oh, and just so you know, I'm calling dips (sp?) on expression morphs and the face rig. Trying to make a head with a proper face rig was my main motivation for starting on Antonia. But then I guess I got carried away somehow.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.