dmtyler, Thanks for making that a little more clear, I think your right about that, Making a figure easy to make makes alot of sense when it comes to giving credit and asking permission to sell. I can see how someone may feel slighted over the time they spent makeing something someone fogot to credit them on and decided to sell, Like my pentagrams I found being sold someplace recently, I wont mention this person, I already gave him all kinds of hell.