Now with that said, Tj: when I omport a morph I have created in max, no matter what I did to it in poser, the morph is a compleete modification, and can not be changed back in part, but only in whole. in other wards the original dial and it's paramaters no longer have any value in the new morph. lets say I didn't move any verticals by hand and used only dials available in the V@ cr2 file, the only way to get the meshes original morphs, or get forinstance to get only the chin morph, you need to have all of the original morphs and set them to be the opisite number and value I used to make the original morph. Now when I modify it in another program like Max, I am first taking out the abilities to modify the meshes original dial properties, and two moving the verticals by hand, and thus taking the original properties of the original morph out.