Continued The entire reason for the statement and question I posted hereis simple. I have a serise of ten figures I have created that have sparked alot of interest through e-mail and here. Moat are Vickie 1, but a few are based vickie 2. And the only reason they have sparked interest is because they are all Based on the body shape and paramaters of "real" Human beeings that I worked with in my photography buesness. Theese real models agreed to model for me in neurtual postion so that I could in essence replicate them in 3D. They also agreed to have the 3D vertions of them released to the public when it was done. (I want to sell them, because I did have to pay the humans that modeled for the project.) This is only my hobby after all, and Hiering the models was expencive. Now the reason that I desided to used Victoria as a base insted of making my own mesh from scratch is that I wanted to release them to you guys, I can use them as my own mesh or Vickie based ones it makes very little diferance for my own purpases. but there are so many morphs outthere, and so mant things that people want to do with them, that it made sence to make it compleetly compatible with what everyone is using. Making new morphs for a figure when there are already 5 bazilion out there for another one that can be adapted just seemed like the right idea. It acualy created alot of extra work for me too. i have a program (And all of the hardwear)called 3D metrics that converts photos into meshes. It is fast and easy. I could have simply used that to make 3D models of the People I based them on and saved myself a lot of brain fry. But then who would benefit, and who whould take them to the next level? I have alway learned allot here, and have been here since the Poser dark ages. I figure I should at least give a bit back for al that has been shared and or given to me. Help or otherwise. By the way, sorry TJ, reading over everything I realise that it looks like this was directed to you, but I just got on a roll and it was ment for everyone. I hope my pathetic eplanation of morphs made atleast some sence. Ok all Disertation over. :^) -Gabe-