Quote - Do you have a plugin outdated?

I think that was it, these are the 3 that i pulled out effectively that were 'left' over from un-installs. The shoestring shader is a beta, so I will see if there is another out there.  

01/10/2009  10:15 PM           241,664 Cloth.mcx
12/02/2008  07:10 PM         2,859,008 Shoestring_shaders.mcx
01/09/2009  10:47 PM           180,736 SimpleLightingModel.mcx

so I will dig some more on those and see about the updates.  I could check to see which one it is thats doing it if anyone is curious.

Thanks again for letting me bounce things off and the suggestions.