since when has poser 4 got all the bells and whistles of poser 7, ok poser7 may not be a great renderer but its better than Poser4,so i cant see why anyone would be moaning about posers rendering when they are not even on a current version, and why the hell are you moaning at us?
oh and BagginsBill also pointed out (in the last post) why anyone using P4 has crap renders....

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.