Yeah yea.. lol, this advice comes after loosing countless hours/days/weeks/years of work on several occasions.. back ups.. know em, love em.. lol. I you make a badck up and restore it thinking you can then delete the backup because you're safe.. think again, keep till you make a new one! I just lost ALL of my poser data that way.. sigh.. and then I found out that Morphworld closed down (When did that all happen?). Been out of this scene for a long time, I just skip in for occasional updates.. stupid job.. lol. Anyone want to write me a 20 pages or less summary on what happened in the last 6 months to a year? :D Ah well, so that's my advice in a nutshell.. save often, save freely, and save in several places if it's important! Jogert