I've been here before 2004 I think, different user name prob 2002 , or 3. How long ago was it when rendo changed the basic interface, forums, etc. I remember all the wailing, grinding of teeth, and the maligning of peoples parentage  when that happened. Just love drama lol. I can remember playing around with poser 4 when it was still with metacreations , and daz3d was zygote. I still have a few poser apps from the zygote days. Amazed at all the changes here, and software