FCLittle opened this issue on Feb 26, 2009 · 90 posts
3DNeo posted Sat, 04 April 2009 at 10:19 AM
Quote - Quote - "FACT: Mac users now take up 12% market share, NOT 3.2% as you quoted. Source, Mac World Magazine, Macbreak Weekly and others."
So, you go to Mac magazines to know the Mac market share... ;-)
I rest my case now without even needing to say anything...Quote - "Sorry, but I won't debate this as obviously you have no intent on reading actual facts from other media sources than myself in the points I have made."
Again, what facts have you stated that could help the decision to purchase a Vue computer?
Quote - "In order to understand this you must know the way development teams are implemented and work."
:-) Actually, I'm the leader of an IT department which includes a development team. I think I know how a development team works. And I also know that outsourcing costs money. And I know that benefits must outweigh the costs for every business decision. So, my conclusion stands perfectly valid.
Quote - "The figure you quoted about PC users are largely from the average Joe and NOT the high-end users like myself that make up those statistics."
So what? My point was about "de facto" standards. "De facto" standards are not created by "high-end users" (whatever that means) but rather by the consumers (to which you call "average Joe").
Quote - "The Mac can run nearly any OS, NOT a PC."
That is obviously untrue. You should check your facts. You probably mean that a PC can't run OS X. That's hardly a disadvantage... :-)
But even if you were right and a Mac can run nearly any OS and a PC can't, how does that benefit the average consumer? Better still, how does that benefit a Vue user?About prices, I won't even argue more. Just go to a shop and compare prices.
Your comparison Ferrari - Chevy... The comparison is obviously incorrect because a PC can be as high-end as you choose it to be.
But if it were correct, I can honestly tell you that I'd prefer a Chevy than a Ferrari for my daily travels. :-) A Ferrari could be good to show-off and have some fun but, in the end of the day, it's going from point A to point B with reasonable prices that really matters. Gaining a few seconds in my 10km from home to work at the expense of a much higher invoice makes no business sense whatsoever. So, thanks for the comparison, it helped my case! :-)Quote - "It seems to me like I have hit a nerve that is not a-typical of forums on the net when someone tries to explain facts, that have even been reported by many technical news media outlets."
Again, what facts have you brought that could help the decision of a Vue user who wants to buy a computer?
Quote - "All this talk has no regard to personal choice and use as now many times and was ignored, use what you like, it's YOUR MONEY."
You keep saying that, which reminds me of some business consultants I met. :-)
They give the advise and then step back. If the customer followed the advise and it proved to be right, they're fine. If the advise proved to be wrong, they say "I told you that it was your decision".
It's nice to always be on the safe side... :-)
"You speak as if your knowledge is so great that you know the ultimate truth. You know for sure what countless experts have discussed before and have not agreed on. You are the ultimate expert. Ok."
From this moment on I could not take you seriously or put validity behind your comments. It is obvious you have a bias here and can't support your statements with facts. At no time did I ever say I was an "ultimate expert", those are your words that you are using to validate a slanted view of bias to mine and making conjecture.
You also are clearly making up your own facts to suite your personal views as you refuse to believe in them even when valid news media sources are quoted. Again, this validates all I stated because you choose your own opinion over a fully reputable source.
I find it interesting that only a couple of people want to draw me into some sort of flame type wars as you obviously want to insight a personal attack here. However, I will not be party to any such thing and have spent more than enough time on this trying to help. Most have been very kind and responded quite favorably. To them I say thank you and am glad to know most users are professionals in our community.
Signing off this thread, best wishes to all.
Jeff
Development on: Mac Pro 2008, Duel-Boot OS - Snow Leopard 10.6.6 &
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon , 10GB
800 MHz DDR2 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT.