**See my prior post to you for the intro, I will refute this post with KNOWN FACT point-by-point below where possible to correct your personal conjecture. I remain shocked you would post this without validating the statements first because they are glaringly inaccurate.
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Commonality  (easy to get, easy to ge tparts or repairs, nearest MAC shop is 30 odd miles away, dozens of PC shops in between, here)

**It depends on your country and location within as to this statement. Mac is just as easy to get parts for either direct from Apple or through others that have been around awhile like OWC (Other World Computing). I can have a part here within days. Also this depends upon if you have Apple Care or not as this is no hassle at all if you do.

Also, most (not all) PCs have 3rd rate support and the workers read a script. They are mostly foreign based outside the USA too. Apple Care is not and you can talk to one of their "Genius" people too at a Mac Store or online.**

lower price (you do NOT see local Tescos bulk pricing MACs! As an example.)

**Nor will you and thankful for that too I am. They will never be at a bulk store because that is not their demographic model and they know who their market is very well. It goes back to what myself and others have said, you get what you pay for. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a Chevy.
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Can't play most games on MACs. WHy have consoles when most games are better on PCs?

**Fact vs Conjecture > Fact is Mac can play games rather an Mac Pro, iMac or Macbook. As pointed out many times, the value comes into play when you can use "Bootcamp" and run Windows in it's native environment. Buy whatever games you want made for Windows and there is no issues at all. You must not have read any of my prior staments on this.

Why have consoles when most games are better on PCs you ask is because of several known reasons. First, the game consoles are geared to hard-core gamers or teens and the trend has shifted in that direction as market share shows. Magazines web sites and podcasts like PC Gamer, OXM, the Firing Squad, Gamespot, etc. have shown this trend for some time now. Also, Microsoft has done a fine job with their 360 Live support and built a better networked gaming community there, even better than PC. Sony is catching up, but still lags behind. Another HUGE factor is game companies make a lot more money on platforms and then port over to PC.
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Many apps don't come for MACs, and why have ot go through hoops AND buy WIndows for the MAC to run them?

**FACT vs Conjecture> Most apps do come for Mac now, very few don't have any support at all. In fact Autodesk has started to support Mac now more than ever as more professionals switch platforms for production work. You may refer to 3D World #114 for the full column.

Not sure what "hoops" you mean to buy Windows as it's a mouse click away at Amzon.com and I can have it here 2 Days with free shipping on Amazon Prime. A personal choice though for why you would buy Windows is because you would get the best of both worlds if you wanted it. As I said before I am running the current build of Windows 7 now.**

64 bit.

FACT> Mac is too, especially under Snow Leopard. Check out this link for details explaining this fact. www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/28/road_to_mac_os_x_snow_leopard_64_bit_to_the_kernel.html

Etc So I stick with PCs, yes it's taken Microsnot years to get a decent OS, sigh, but MAC's aren't all that either, the Amiga was more than 10 years ahead of both of 'em 20 years ago!

**The Macs are for reasons mentioned in prior posts. You are correct about the Amiga though. I worked for Commodore during my early years as a tech writer and that is where I made lots of friends, some still in the industry today. In fact there are many things copied by Microsoft and Apple on that platform. Do you recall "Sticky RAM" and the GUI that looked sort of like Windows 3.11 years before? Oh yes and 20MB hard drives were insane along with 2MB of memory because that's all anyone would ever need. The good'ol days indeed.
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If folk like MACs, good, everyone ot their own :) and competition keeps that bunch in Microsoft moving (however slowly).
But for the average person, MACs aren't all that, like it or not.

**The data from the news sources like those sighted in prior posts here by me suggest otherwise. In fact, the Mac is the fastest growing platform for the average user, especially their "Macooks and iMac" lines. Most students entering college now have a Mac.
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Less security threats , yeah tha'ts a good point, bar that...take your money and go see how easy it is ot get each, and what you get for your money, in the REAL world, NOT the world of computer specialists in the world's major cities!

So, think of Joe Public, guys, when you are fighting , 'cause they usually haven't got a CLUE  ;)

munches popcorn wahhcing the fight :p

Jeff

Development on: Mac Pro 2008, Duel-Boot OS - Snow Leopard 10.6.6 & Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon , 10GB 800 MHz DDR2 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT.