Quote - Quote - "No problem, glad you found it educational. "

I didn't say educational, I said interesting. Who's misquoting who now? ;-)

Yes, you did say "interesting", but I did educate you on Apple. See all your posts where I took your statements on and debunked them with known FACT and supported them with references.

Quote - "Now, that you know I won the Apple debate"

Haha! :-) The debate was not about Apple, it was about the "perfect Vue computer", remember? That's the thread title. And, in the end I won the debate because you admitted that a PC was a better choice for Vue than a Mac. Let me quote you (hopefully not misquote): "If its VALUE over performance you are after and you ONLY wanted it for Vue and NOTHING else mattered at all, that may be true at this time."

If you read word for word what you said in all your posts you will see where you split this topic into two different ones as I already pointed out in a prior post. I also refer you to where I said it was NOT about Vue or Apple vs PC but rather FACT vs your person conjecture which you were trying to pass off on others.

**My quote:

"For me, it is not about Mac vs PC but rather people wanting to ignore known valid sources of technical information. This makes it difficult because just a few select people want to make conjecture based on their own personal views. What this leads to is someone reading this thread getting wrong facts and data which may lead them to believe those are true if no one challenges them factually."**

Quote - "I wonder if you will be professional enough to concede you were wrong about your Apple statements"
I still think I'm right about Apple in general but I don't want to discuss it further, sorry but I'm a bit tired of it and, in the end, it's useless because my point was already validated (see above). :-)

**What you think does not matter, if you read known technical magazines (I get 6 a month Windows, Mac and Linux), which I assumed you did being an "IT guy" then you would already know these facts and not try to insert information you make up because it is how you feel personally.

Sorry but your points were debunked (about Apple), not validated. You split the topic off from Vue when you started making those Apple statements, see above.**

Quote - "Also, an apology for making it personal and questioning my education background (something I didn't do) would be nice. "

I never questioned your education background. I trust you have the background you say you have and never questioned it. All I said is that someone's background is not relevant for a discussion. Knowledge and opinions should prove themselves right without the need to be reenforced by one's background. You probably never heard a Nobel prize winner validating his statements by saying "... this is like this and I know I'm right because I'm a Nobel prize winner".
However, I do apologize for not having made myself clear in this respect in our discussion. :-)

Regarding making it personal, you are right there, I did make it slightly personal in some points because I didn't like your attitude, for the reasons that I mentioned already ("pulling ranks") and I got a little bit irritated. I should have known better not to get irritated by things like this and for that I do apologize. :-)

**That tells me a lot about you then because there was no "attitude". You read into it only what you wanted to and made your own conclusions about me. Does that mean you treat others at your work the same way you treated me here if you think their "attitude" is not to your liking or people with more experience like the CEO is "pulling ranks"? I bet not given you would most likely be fired.

But I do accept your apology on this.
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Let's shake hands! :-)

AGREED! Have fun and happy rendering. Best wishes to you, signing off of this topic.

Jeff

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