Hi Guy's Have any of you tried Grouper11 Linked on Omni3D This prog also states that it can import poser files into bryce runs on win 98 not 2000 but the good thing is it is free go have a look As with a lot of the community i have also paid out for duff progs perhaps renderosity should put out a page where new progs could be reviewed and rated? program developers would also benefit by haveing programs viewed by the very people they wish to sell to in one place