Laughs... that was great analogy Klebnor, but I don't think he gets it.    I agree those are fabulous models, highly detailed which I think would render with the appropriate texture tweeks lighting scene setup in a variety of packages amazingly, they happen to be done in lightwave.   I have seen other though not available to buy done in other products as well.   While he does have some points yeah there probably aren't as many tutorials as Lightwave, and? so? there arn't as many Carrara users as Lightwave, oh yeah its a fraction of the cost. 

I kinda hope this thread dies, perhaps another one that says simply wow look at these (I saw a thread like that for this site), I am gonna give lightwave a go, because this is what I need, and thats it. (or perhaps just wow look at these and thats it).

It would have been better as the other posts I have seen about that site, was wow look how cool, detailed and wonderful 'insert website' models are, they are for lightwave.  bottom line? who cares, I do enjoy seeing the possibilities.  I am glad he found what he needed,  it happens to required a different tool.  Thats what the software is, tools.  You get what suits your needs, time, budget, goals.  He also makes some blanket statements which gets people's hackles up.  chuckles I could tell you the bugs in lighwave, and maya and various others having ran the IT dept for a large game development company. 

I don't mind him sharing the link, though I had seen it before, its the bit of dumping he did then it got into a pissing contest and everyone loses.  I look at that site as a challenge to learn more,  to go "hmmm" how did they do that, while it would be nice to disassemble the scene, light, texture, models.  

Carrara fits where I am at, at this moment.  Just like I bought Howie's scene's for some of the same reason, looking at his posting of the challenges at cgsociety made me go, wow Carrara can do some awsome things, a step up a notch.  When I get there and need something more then I will re-evaluate. 

So thanks for sharing the link.  I agree some phenominal renders.