Thanks a lot Art, I will do your example and send it again.

This is my first bug issue in the 2 years I've been working with Vue so I'm not broken in yet, ha ha ha! It's no fun, I don't like it at all especially that I don't do big landscapes with lots of eco so this little bug comes up with every move I make... I don't really have a way around it, it drives me crazy. 

I'm surprised that no one else noticed this, i looked in the forum before posting and at C3D too but didn't see anything. Can a bug be in one computer and not an other? I really know nothing about bugs!

Nice to hear that Lee is a nice person I'd been having doubts because she's been ignoring me so I didn't know where to turn anymore.

So thanks a lot for your help and I'll keep you posted.