Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Pirate Bay founders jailed

Dark_Anvil opened this issue on Apr 17, 2009 ยท 83 posts


MikeJ posted Thu, 23 April 2009 at 6:03 AM

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I don't see forcing Torrent sites keeping records of original uploaders of Torrents, (You know, the ones who seed the files first), as any sort of breach of Privacy.

And how do they do that? Force the ISP to submit personal details, like name, address and so on to the feds? And whose feds, anyway? The feds in Russia, Singapore...Sweden? The fact that the internet is international and subject to widely diverse laws in and of itself is enough to make it impossible, but say for a minute these things only happen in free, democratic countries, like the US.

As it is, your ISP can be forced to give up all the details about you to the police, if there's a real good reason. What you're condoning is making that difficult process a whole lot easier. The ISP would have to make people's records immediately available, and in bulk quantity too. All protection of anonymity and privacy would be lost out of necessity and for the sake of expediency and efficiency.
Eventually, every site you sign up with where uploading something is possible would be forced, by law, to have all your personal details on file for... just in case.

And before long, you find yourself having to show ID just to buy a music CD or a movie DVD at Wal-Mart, also... just in case...
What you're advocating basically is breaking down one of the last set of privacies we have, and setting precedents for future intrusion into our lives and our actions. Is that what you want?
Just because it's already done to a large degree in other aspects of our lives doesn't make it any better, doesn't make it OK to break down the few remaining barriers.

But what do I know - I'm a borderline anarchist anyway, and more than anything I want to see FEWER laws, not more. Someone steals your stuff, you find him and beat him to death, not run crying to Uncle Fed for Justice. ;-)

When your answer to every problem begins to become, "Oh, let's just make a new law for that", you have really started to go down a very dangerous road as a society. But then again, in the US at least, we're almost there as it is....

In any event, as I already said, the illegal torrent sites are foreign and not subject to US laws. Are you one of those people who believes in total sovereignty for foreign nations? Because, you know, we can't just go imposing our will on other country's laws.