Perhaps sheep or perhaps something more than some of you can understand. I haven't posted much lately, but I have followed the forum since before they moved to this site. I was never here because it was www.poserforum.com or because it was powered by EdgeNet Media. I originally came here and stayed because of the people. Willow, Anton, Anson, Grey, on and on. The ones who answered my questions in the beginning, the ones who would look at a half-dozen different renders of the same scene and critique each to help me with my composition and lighting, and the ones with the opinions and talent that I respect. And strangely enough, most of those people are no longer here. Hmmm.... If going to where they are and where I feel comfortable makes me a sheep, then could I at least be a Bull-sheep ? :) -=>Donald (EG) Remember..there's not much difference between a sheep and a great warrior when they're both holding the detonator of a 800 mega-ton thermonuclear device. -Plato