at the time i didn't.... i had to hand write the cr2's after i exported the objects and mtl files... fortunately it's a direct copy from the mtl's to the cr2's... i was following a tut and had a blank cr2 to use when doing so... i could redo them now and choose the type of poser to export the cr2 as.... i'm using daz studio's figure set-up tools and cr2 exporter now... i hadn't had that when i did my prop sets... i kinda figured it had something to do with the way daz handled it's mtl's... BeyondVR had suggested such in an email to me regarding some other things... poser wouldn't read daz's mtl's properly with an object i'd sent him... so it stands to reason that the info that needed to be in the cr2's would be screwed up as well... ty antonia... now that i know what the prob is maybe i can fix it... the objects read fine in daz with no probs however... but i will have to retry making the cr2's with the cr2 exporter and see if that fixes the prob... but without me having poser i have no way of knowing if it works or not.... i'll see what i can do...