thanx Antonia... i worked with what i had at the time and could find that best simulated what i needed when i did them... but when i do the two peice scene backdrop set i'll be doing a better job of it... it workes for a basic scene though... and most people would be looking at the aircraft rather than the ground...lol... i'll get a better look at psp and see what i can do for the new prop sets when i start on them... :)