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Subject: HDRI Megapack: i need your input


ajmarti ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 9:56 AM · edited Sat, 23 November 2024 at 1:03 AM

Hi guys!. By now im sure you've seen this HDRI megapack

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=71068

Im looking for some more realism on my lights but my question is do you think this pack is worth the price.. ??/... i mean i find it a little too much for 2 lights set you have to get by separate...

I have some IBL on my PoserPro7... but these seems attractive.. i just want your opinion

Thanks

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ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 10:27 AM

you always need to change your IBL depending on your enviorment. a HDRI IBL can make a render more realistic. but it needs to fit in the scene.
so i dont understand where i could use HDRI IBl's that are different then my scene.


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 10:30 AM

I don't have the pack.

I usually make my own lights from scratch, or sometimes I will see a set of lights that are essentially what I'm looking for and will tweak them to fit my needs.

The light set you point out is by Mec4D and she really does know her lighting, so I have no doubt that the lights would be excellent.

However, keep in mind that there is no such thing as "generic" lighting that will fit all scenes and moods.  IMHO it's best to spend the time learning how to create your own lighting, that way you can personalize and individualize the lights for each scene that you are doing.

Here is a thread about lighting. It contains all kinds of links to tutorials, discussions and help threads where good advice and information is given.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2734086

Lighting isn't something you can sit down and master, if that's even possible, in one sitting. It takes time.  I think it was December 2006 when i decided that I seriously needed to learn lighting and I spent 3 months fiddling around in Poser just with lighting. I would open lights and see what the person had done, I would tweak what they had done to see how things changed in the scene with various settings, and I would try creating my own from scratch.  Was it boring? You bet!  But while there is still a whole lot I need to learn about it, I have the basics down enough that now I can make my own lighting for each of my scenes  and when in doubt I post and ask for more information.

So far as buying those lights, it's entirely up to you.  It might be a good starting point for you to open them up in Poser and examine how she went about creating them etc.  It might get you on the right track to making your own.  

 

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ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 11:30 AM

i think if you will buy those lights and if you dotn know how lighting works then the renders will not be the best. and so you spend money and didnt get the best results.

IMO learn as much as possible about lighting. the link that acadia posted is great.


ajmarti ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 11:37 AM

hi Acadia!
Thanks you so much for your help... you're absolutely right..... Definitely is way more valuable for me to learn to deal with my own lights; learn how it works...So ... thanks so much for the links; i will check them right now.... as always i appreciate your help AND take your advice!
Thanks so much!. Take good care

AJ

Artist @ajmarti.com


ajmarti ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 11:39 AM

Thank you Ice-Boy!... i promise you i will
Thanks so much!

Artist @ajmarti.com


JenX ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 2:38 PM · edited Sun, 03 May 2009 at 2:39 PM

I've had them for a while, purchased from her site when that was the only place to get them.  They're really good HDRI lightsets, and pretty well managed.  For renders where you're going to put the character/image onto a background in a 2D Editor (photoshop, gimp, etc.), using the lights the way they are is fine.  However, if you're rendering against a backdrop or have a prop in your background, it creates banding, so I would recommend changing the shadows to raytraced shadows to prevent banding. Here are some examples:

Hang on...forgot they're still in .png's.  Let me convert them for the forum.

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JenX ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 2:47 PM

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JenX ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 2:47 PM

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JenX ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 2:48 PM

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ajmarti ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 5:51 PM

Wow thank you JenX; looks pretty cool!
Thanks for your help!

Artist @ajmarti.com


JenX ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 6:51 PM

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You're welcome.  One thing to remember is...no light setup will look awesome if your materials look bad.  Take time to learn both about lighting and your material setups to get your best renders.  This is after a few hours of tweaking materials, and using presets from Med4D's Chrome-Clay set.   The lighting here is with her HDRI Megapack 1, Indoor Light.  I tweaked every material in the setup, at the very least adding Ambient Occlusion.  You want realism?  Your image NEEDS bump, specularity, sometimes even displacement, but AO really helps things pop.

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ajmarti ( ) posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 11:14 PM

Wow cool JenX: cool render btw!
I promise you i will take my time! Thanks again!
You've been very helpful!

Artist @ajmarti.com


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