hey! you guys get offa my bug list with yer lightwave stuff! ::boot!:: :) (anyway, e-on makes a plug-in for lightwave. but i think its only skies? did you look at it?) go a reply from steve at e-on. he says the black circle bit in the volumetric spotlights will be addressed in vue 4.01. however, the material editor glitches.... he said he'd point them out, but not to hold my breath for any fixes. ditto with the gif89a interlaced file reading. :/ the following bugs (listed above) have now been reported to e-on: material summary drag & drop material #2 altitude world/object space switch object space on boolean union a/z image names