Kaom, I've had Amapi myself. (Got it off of the same magazine, as a matter of fact. For FREE!!!) I don't think anyone here is knocking it or ignoring you. I just wanted to let people know that I had found a demo of max 4 that they could try if they wanted to. That's all. And BTW, can Amapi do particle effects? No. Can Amapi do animation? No. It is a great modeler and I do like it, but please, I was just trying to give everyone a heads up about 3ds max. Do try to stay on the topic. ;-)